Artist Vern Green • Birth ♓ Sat 20 Mar 1965 (57 years, 8 months, 15 days, 21079 total living days)

Vern “Blue” Green or Vernon Green. Bass 🎸 1988-92.

He joined the band after Malatesta and Warrenburg had quit and played on the Paradise Lost tour. He has been playing bass since 1984 and played in many bands before and after Ungol. Most notable are probably the female fronted AOR rock band Broken Silence.

In addition to the bands listed on The Bands-page, he has performed with Riff Raff, Chris Keith Band, John Orvis of Smoke, Jim Calire of the band America, and Mario Calire of the Wallflowers and Ozomatli. Vern has appeared on stage all over Southern California with some of the finest rock and blues groups including Dreamboat Annie, a Heart tribute act.

Vernon Green writes about his days in Cirith Ungol:

I the got the opportunity to play for Cirith Ungol and what a good time that was. These guys were some of the most opened minded guys I even played with, and they were really good musicians too. I appeared on their fourth CD named “Paradise Lost.” Unfortunately as things sometimes do, that ride came to an end. I still am not sure what drove things apart, there were a lot of things that happened in a short period of time and when the dust fell, we were minus a guitar player. We tried to replace Jimmy for a short period of time, but it was really going no where. I left the band next and to this day I do not think Robbie has forgiven me for it.

Vernon Green

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Eternal Flames: On the thanx-list of “Paradise Lost” Vernon Green thanx the U.S. Navy Seabees “for 5 * years of sheer bliss”. Sounds that he enjoyed this time very much … (Have you been to the army?!)
Vern was one of the people we brought on board at the end of our career because we were desperate for anyone at the time. He didn’t even play on “Paradise Lost”, and didn’t stay in the band very long. He and his wife got religion and bailed, which was for the best as he was never really C.U. material. None of the original members were ever in the army, as a matter of fact one of the first concerts we ever played was at anti- war (Vietnam) protest in Ventura. The protest was broken up by tear gas and we were leaving as the riot police were entering and busting heads. One of the only advantages of being an opening act!!
– Robert Garven

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Vern Green
6 years ago

I feel I need to respond here.

I am ecstatic that the band is back together and is planning to do what I had hoped they could have done a long time ago. I joined the band and was excited to do it because I was a fan of these records myself. Now, I do not know why I am even being brought into this, I have not asked nor am I upset in anyway not being a part of the reunion. Jarvis can clearly do more for the band than I can and I am happy they have him to help them resurrect their careers.

First, I never claimed anywhere to have played on that record, when it was released we talked about the fact that I was appearing on it, and it was decided that we would not say one way or the other. I have always followed with that, but when asked about playing on it directly I have always been clear that it is not me. I had someone ask me the other day about this and I was very clear about it.

Second, this idea that I took a lot of the bands assets and that I quit at the most critical time. I took nothing from the band when I left except things that belonged to me. Things that I paid for with my own money and were mine. The only items that I even have are a couple of live video tapes and the two large backdrop praying skeleton banners you see in the live video I uploaded. Those banners were mine, they were paid for by me, they were painted by me, my wife and Jimmy. That is literally the only thing I took when I left the band.

In fact, I still have those banners and would have been happy to let them have them back if they wanted them, all they had to do was ask to have them back. I have actually been threatening to give them to Bart Gabriel as he has shown a great interest in them. I have even talked to him about it, but have not done it yet.

I am not sure where this idea that I stole assets from the band came from, nor do I know where this whole quitting the band at the most important time. The fact is that Jimmy quit the band long before I did and it was after much time trying to find a replacement guitar player that I finally moved on. There were numerous reasons for my departure, the biggest being that we could not find a serious guitar player to replace Jimmy.

I do not know Jarvis and he does not know me, since he does not know me, the only thing he knows about me is what he is being told, read into that what you will. I have never had anything bad to say about my experiences with Cirith Ungol, nor with Robert, Tim or Jimmy. I have bent over backwards to help Jimmy out when he needed help and would do the same for any of those guys. I have never had anything but the utmost respect for them.

We have gone our separate ways though. Yes, I am a Christian now, but that does not mean I do not like good Heavy Metal and Cirith Ungol is still some of the best. I was a Christian when I was in the band, and had no issue with playing their music.

Finally, I harbor no ill will against them for getting together with Jarvis, Flint or Matt or anyone, that is their call and it is not about me. I was very excited when I heard that Matt was playing with them. As a father of three boys myself, I can put understand how exciting and cool it would be to be in a band with my son. With me not having an issue with not being a part of the reunion, I am not sure why I am being dragged into it now!

It hurts me that I have been called a thief in front of thousands of Cirith Ungol fans. I wanted nothing more for these guys than to be successful and was content of not being in the middle of it, but now, here I am, right in the middle of something that I hope was just a ploy to drive up interest. Well allow me to add to the drama, as they say, all press is good press, right?

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