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Frost and Fire โ๏ธ Band Cirith Ungol
• Release date Sat 31 Jan 1981
• Published Sat 31 Jan 1981
• Release label Liquid Flame Records
• Release number HM13666
• Limited 5000
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“HEAVY METAL 13666 CIRITH UNGOL FROST AND FIRE”
Original issue on the band’s own “Liquid Flame Records”,
initial edition of 500 copies (cat# HM13666).
A repress of 1000 or 2000 copies followed shortly after the first press with slightly altered labels and a different cat# (LF001).
Reissued in 1981 on Enigma Records/Restless Records.
BUT BEFORE THE FIRST 500 COPIES BAND DID TEST PRESSING WITH
GREY LABLES.
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- A signed Frost and Fire LP: “I was the original dummer and co-founder of Cirith Ungol. After 9 years together we finally released our first album “Frost & Fire”. This is a VERY RARE opportunity to obtain the original first copy of this the first album we produced signed by all the original members except myself. If requested I will sign it also, however these signatures were made to me and at the time the record was released. This is especially rare as Jerry our original guitarist passed away many years ago signature is here also. Hard time makes me offer the rarest piece of Cirith Ungol memorabilia and my most important in my collection. Although I never made any success I am hoping that one of our fans has been successful and can aquire this once in a lifetime piece of rock history. We were the first band in LA to release out own record independently and this was it. The label is even blank! Thanks for looking. I will answer any questions about this item, and include a new never opened copy of the same album to whomever buys this one.”
Everything is the same day except every time is been re-released the back cover with the credits has changed a little bit, not the photograph but just the text etc.
I think because there was quite a bit of interest in the band and we were broken up for so long it was fertile ground for so many people to make bootlegs. We were recording from almost the time the band started so we always had copies of our songs but they were mainly for ourselves and on a limited basis we will let friends have them. Just so you know the only official demo we really ever did was that orange cassette until we released frost and fire.
in 1981 we released “Frost & Fire” on Liquid Flames Records #10766 not sure how many we made but then signed a deal with Greenworld who rereleased it under #LF001 (On the spine.) a rare one came out without the logo.
We released it as a demo technically 10766, once we signed a distribution deal it was I guess a album release Lf001.
Robert Garven, Mar 2019
FOR ENZO – HM-13666-1 (scratched on the first record)
HM = Heavy Metal
LFR = Liquid Flames Records
Demo technically 10766
HM13666 / HM-13666 press 500 copies.
LF001 / LF-001 re-press 1500 copies (?)
Limited to 5000.
Is the Liquid Flames catalog number HM13666 technically the same release as LFR 10766 (the original demo-level Frost and Fire pressing), or does 10766 represent a separate earlier issue distinct from HM13666? In other words, are these two catalog numbers referring to the same physical release or different editions? How can it be cataloged as a 500-copy, 1,500-copy, or 5,000-copy release with also the different label and catalogue? Very grateful for your answer on different label, catalogue and copies.
1st pressing. Liquid Flames Records is only mentioned on the spine. Copyright (c) Cirith Ungol, no (p) mentioned. Insert w/ lyrics, pictures and credits. Also different labels & deadwax etchings to the Liquid Flames repress.
This original HM13666 variant features two pairs of โPraying skeletonsโ on the label.
Barcode and Other Identifiers
Matrix / Runout (Side A): MASTERED AT ALLEN ZENTZ L.A., CALIF. / + / KM + / FOR ENZO / HM 13666-1
Matrix / Runout (Side B): MASTERED AT ALLEN ZENTZ L.A., CALIF. / HM 13666-2 / + / KM +
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