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Praying Skeleton logo
- Skeleton (Patrick)
The praying skeleton logo is our own design, dating back to around 1977.
– Greg Lindstrom
The “praying skeleton” is one page of the book Osteographia – The anatomy of the bones by the author William Cheselden (19 Oct 1688 β 10 Apr 1752). This image is called plate 36 (XXXVI).
Eternal Flames: Who drew the praying skeletons?
They were something Greg came up with. We liked them and they stayed as our logo
– Robert Garven
Draft logo
New logo I created. I spent hours trying to replicate the amazing etching detail of William Cheselden for the typeface and trying to replicate the contours of the bones! Let me know what you think!
I recently found a super high resolution version of the original skeleton and wanted to create an updated logo, not sure if anyone in the band or fans would accept it. I have to be honest his original etching had to do some skeletal gyrations to get them bones to match the same angle and pose of the one we adopted so many years ago. Thanks to modern technology this was possible although a modern Yogi would have been impressed. I am most proud of the work I did on the lettering with the texture, shaping, and spacing of each letter.
Of course this was just an exercise in creativity and I thought I would run it up the flagpole to see if anyone would salute it! I guess this is the ultimate tattoo challenge!
Many donβt know the true history of how our logo came about. Gregβs family ran a print shop at one time and found the clip art of William Cheseldenβs famous praying skeleton, about the time the band was getting started. We liked the look, copied and flipped one around. I found a type face that I had been using called Stonehenge (at the time) to create our name, and our logo was born. The history of William Cheseldenβs book was similar to our first album, when it first came out it wasnβt financially successful and much of his etchings became copyright free over the years. That is why youβll see them in various locations, although our logo was one of the first to use some commercially. (Twitter, 13 Feb 2021)
This is the most common logo since 2003. It has been adapted by Falcon.
Dig the cool reverse “Cirith Falcon” logo!
Perry Grayson, 09 Nov 2003
See also Similar to Praying Skeleton.
Chaos Star, Chaos Symbol, Wheel of Fate, Symbol of Chaos
Next to the praying skeletons CU use the symbol of the chaos star. Whatβs behind that? Can you tell us anything about this symbol? Nowhere at all we found any information about the sign of the chaos star … (Other bands we found using the sign of the chaos stars on their LPs/logos etc. are Bolt Thrower and Sepultura…)
Eternal Flame
In the Moorcock books the CHAOS sign is described as a symbol with many arrows pointing in all directions symbolizing the many possibilities of CHAOS!Β The symbol of LAW was one arrow pointing up.Β We liked the idea of CHAOS and I designed the logo based on my readings of the book.
Robert Garven
We had a gigantic praying skeleton logo backdrop and sometimes the glowing Wheel of Fate logo off our album.
Robert Garven
Wheel of Fate logo and Chaos Star, is the same or different? Here is Symbol of Chaos.
- 1986 CD
- 2020
- Chaos Star / Praying Skeleton / Stonehenge
- Patrick Lysaght
“The origin of the Chaos Symbol was me doodling sitting at the kitchen table and wondering what to tell Jim Cawthorn the arms of Chaos looked like. I drew a straightforward geographical quadrant (which often has arrows, too!) N.S.E.W.and then added another four directions and that was that — eight arrows representing all possibilities, one arrow representing the single, certain road of Law. I have since been told to my face that it is an ‘ancient symbol of Chaos’ and if it is then it confirms a lot of theories about the race mind…As far as I know the symbol, drawn by Jim Cawthorn, first appeared on an Elric cover ofΒ Science FantasyΒ in 1962, then later appeared in his first comic version ofΒ StormbringerΒ done by Savoy.
Controversy: there is no mention at all of βMichael Moorcockβ after the year 1986.
See also Similar to Chaos Star.
Cirith Ungol
They took their name from the place Cirith Ungol in J. R. R. Tolkienβs epic fantasy novelΒ The Lord of the Rings. The nameΒ Cirith UngolΒ is Elvish and means βPass of the Spiderβ.
The “Cirith Ungol” is name of three alternatives:
- Cirith Ungol, theΒ Elvish and means βPass of the Spider”.
- Cirith Ungol, the Metal band.
- Cirith Ungol, the Metal song.
See the further song with Cirith UngolΒ and J.R.R. Tolkien.Β
Typeface (font)
NB! What is the original typeface (fonts) on some or all fonts? Font identifiers are likely similar fonts, and not the actual font. Also have confusion betweenΒ typefaceΒ andΒ font with various styles. Curious if CU have copyright free or commercially from many of the sources.
- early font 1
- early font 2
The early serif font 1 (at least from Fri 23 Feb 1973 or earlier) or early serif font 2 (at least from Sat 22 May 1976 or earlier) was designed by Rob Garven, who was a graphic illustrator. The pictures are part of one of the posters and flyers that had the original Cirith Ungol logo.
It has been used on some of posters, flyers and possibly other merch from the beginning.
The original sans-serif(?) font is unknown, possibly influenced by the font Herkules (2004).
It has been used on some of posters, flyers and possibly other merch (at least from Sat 21 Feb 1981 or earlier) and One Foot In Hell.
Most likely the typeface has been used on Elric on DAW Books. The font is probably Charleston (1967) from Ludwig & Mayer influenced by Marshall (2004) and Radius FG (2022). Maybe nothing on CU, but Charleston (1997) is influenced by Paradise Lost (1991).
The serif font is maybe Kingston Pro (1974) or ITC Korinna Heavy and influenced by the font Corrigan (2011).
It has been used on Frost and Fire (1981) and some of the posters, flyers and possibly other merch (at least from Sat 17 Apr 1982Β or earlier).
The original serif font is unknown, possibly influenced by the font omnia (1990).
It has been used on the One Foot In Hell (1986) CD and possibly some of the posters, flyers and other merch.
The original serif font is unknown, possibly influenced by the font Charleston (1997) and EFN Posters Jasny Regular (2000). The font Charleston (1967) has been used on Elric on DAW Books.
It has been used on Paradise Lost (1991) and possibly some of the posters, flyers and other merch.
The typeface serif Quadrata II by Paul Hayden Duensing (1929-2006). He was typographer, type designer, cut and cast for his Private Press and Type foundry. Typeface Quadrata (1970) and Quadrata II (1974).
The typeface serif Stonehenge (1978) is formattβs copy by Albie Fiore (1946-2009) published by Graphic Products Corporation, seen on Citadel Miniatures Logo (1979), subsidiaries of Games Workshop (1975) and TSR | Gygax | Classic Warfare (1975). Adopted by Formatt for dry-transfer lettering and shown in their 1974 catalog as Stonehenge. Inspired to the books The Lord of the Rings.
Nb! These are mixed with Quadrata II and Stonehenge now, but it is most likely the typeface Stonehenge, maybe Quadrata II.Β Influenced by the font Satans Minions by Mickey Rossi (2000) and Moria Citadel (2002).
It has been used used on some of posters, flyers and other merch (at least from 1977 or earlier), The Orange Album, King Of The Dead and reunited from 2015 until now .
Pictogram
Or paintings, emotions, emoji, ideogram, Necronomicon, etc. What is the originally source? And who is the illustrator?
It has been used on some of posters, flyers and other merch and The Orange Album and One Foot in Hell.
- Also of the cover Demon Flight (1982)
- Also of the cover Demon Flight (1982)
- Also of the cover Demon Flight (1982)
- Also of the cover Demon Flight (1982)
- Also of the cover Demon Flight (1982)
- Also of the cover Demon Flight (1982)
- Also of the cover Hootch (1974)
- Also of the cover of Rex Bruce
- Also used by “Tattoo You (Temporarily!)”
- None CU: “Tattoo you (Temporarily!) Dynamite paint-ons stay for days or remove instantly! Great gift/party kit $20 postpaid from TEMPTU, 1225 Broadway, New York, NY 10011.” @ Creem Magazine
- Also of the cover Demon Flight (1982)
- Also of the cover Demon Flight (1982)
- Also of the cover Demon Flight (1982)
- Also of the cover Demon Flight (1982)
- Also of the cover Demon Flight (1982)
- Book is Poeti Umanisti Maggiori. Possibly the original source.
- Book is Poeti Umanisti Maggiori
- Rush opened for Hawkwind, Kansas City, KC on 18 Oct 1974. Down and left side, which logos or ideogram they have used? .
Hook and Cross
See
Pentagram
The inverted pentagram β§ is used on at least for poster on the gig:
Tarot
Tarot Card.
Garven: Halvar [The Planet Of Doom], he’s the protagonist guy in the movie. He’s kind of like a viking biker guy that travels through time to go back to kill the guy that murdered his wife. I can’t pronounce the monster’s name or whatever but anyway his name was Halvar. That’s the guy. So in our part of the thing he gets to like a cave and he goes in there meeting a witch. She reads his tarot cards, and while reading the tarot…
Baker: All you need to do is read the lyrics to “Witch’s Game.”
Garven: But yeah, he goes inside… I’m just telling you, that he goes inside each tarot card and he fights the monster.
Summary
Original artist | The band Cirith Ungol | Other bands |
Cover painting (Frank Frazetta) | First cover: "At the time we wanted a “Sword and Sorcery” theme cover called “Berserker” by Frank Frazetta, a famous sword and sorcery artist, but it was taken by the country rock band MOLLY HATCHET!" - Rob Second cover: v/a - Frazetta compilation album, with amongst Cirith Ungol (Picture disc, 2016) | Dust, Nazareth, Molly Hatchet, Yngwie Malmsteen, etc. |
Cover painting - Elric (Michael Whelan) |
| Same cover painting, but different font: Elric – Stormbringer, Antihero, Elric of Melnibon (all from 2017) |
Authors and his band also (Michael Moorcock) |
| His own band: Michael Moorcock & The Deep Fix |
Chaos Star (Michael Moorcock) | Cirith Ungol | The Lamp of Thoth, Eternal Champion, Helstar, Bolt Thrower, Attila, Slave Lunacy, Agent Steel, |
Cover painting - others (Michael Whelan) | Witch’s Game (2018) | Sepultura, Meat Loaf, Obituary, Demolition Hammer, The Mist, Smoulder, Sacred Rite, Renegade, etc |
Hook and Cross (Bill Gawlik) | Cirith Ungol | |
The Lord of the Rings (J.R.R. Tolkien) | The band and the song: Cirith Ungol | Burzum, Gorgoroth, Morgoth, Amon Amarth, Isengard, etc |
Praying Skeleton (William Cheselden - Osteographia) | Cirith Ungol | Black Oath, Minimum Syndicat, Archaeaeon, Prophets of Rage, Avenged Sevenfold, etc |
Necronomicon (H. P. Lovecraft) | Cirith Ungol (they have it at least 1978-86) | Necronomicon (all of the bands) |
Stonehenge | Cirith Ungol | Artch - Another Return |
Pyramid, castle and mountain
See Pyramid, castle and mountain.